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Ah, brings you back doesn’t it? I bet most of the kids in here have never even heard of the Flintstones. I used to watch it all the time as a kid in the 80’s…but I digress.
Welcome to week 4 of In the Beginning and I started with that little cartoon clip because it’s fun, but also because today I want to show you that at least one aspect about that show was not so far fetched.
Scientists have recently discovered hard evidence that stone-age people really did have feet powered cars…no, just kidding.
But what there really IS evidence for is the fact that human beings and dinosaurs actually lived together – though I doubt anyone was using them as construction tools.
And while that is an interesting topic, perhaps – especially if you are a guest today – you are wondering why am I talking about this in church? Well, the answer to that is the answer to why we are even doing this 5 week series on creation. Because, as I showed in the first week – the biblical creation account and the prevailing big bang/evolution account do not match up in any way. They cannot both be true – so as Christians we are torn between – do I trust what so many believe to be proven facts or do I trust the Bible?
 
Do I trust SCIENCE or the BIBLE?
And the answer to that is BOTH.
What I am trying to show you from various angles is that science and the Bible are not at odds.
Week 1: I showed that the big bang/evolution and the biblical creation models cannot both be true. They are mutually exclusive based simply on the order of events. You can’t mesh the two without compromising one of them.
Week 2: I showed that the idea of the evolution of life from simple to complex via gradual changes and natural selection is both not supported by fossil evidence and is statistically impossible, yet the creation account fits the evidence quite nicely.
Last Week: I showed both from the Bible and from physical evidence that the earth and universe could very well have been created in 6 literal days and that all of this is only 6,000 years old instead of the billions of years required by the faith in evolution.
In all three weeks I showed you both biblical and physical evidence that the pages of Genesis are more accurate than the pages of your average grade school science book on those topics. And today, I want to show you that yet another assumption that has been drilled into our heads our whole life is actually false.
This is another testable prediction.
If evolution is true – then dinosaurs died out millions of years before human beings appeared, and thus there should be zero evidence of them existing even close to the same time frame.
But, If the creation account from the Bible is accurate, then the earth is young AND dinosaurs and people must have lived together and there should be evidence to show that.
Let’s look at the biblical account again to see why:
Genesis 1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Day 1: Light and Dark – Day and Night
Day 2: The Sky
Day 3: Land, Seas, Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, Stars
20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
    in the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
Genesis 2
So the creation of the heavens and the earth and everything in them was completed. On the seventh day God had finished his work of creation, so he rested from all his work. And God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because it was the day when he rested from all his work of creation.
So, there you have it. God mad ALL of the birds, and ALL of the fish on day 5. Then He made ALL of the land animals AND Adam & Eve on day 6. Then because He was done creating, He rested on the 7th day.  Creation was complete. Finished. Done. Everything that was going to be created was done by the 7th day.
Which means that everything we see now and everything we see from the past is a direct result of that creation, and that all the kinds of animals and plants that we can observe in the present or the past already existed fully formed before Adam and Eve had their first child.
So what is the obvious conclusion about human beings and dinosaurs?
Are dinosaurs land and sea and air dwelling animals?
Then unless they all went extinct by mid-day of the sixth day (which biblically could not happen since death did not enter the world until Adam and Eve sinned, and they certainly couldn’t sin before they were created) then human beings and what we call dinosaurs must have lived at the same time in the same place if the Bible is true. Even if a day in Genesis is not a literal day – we cannot have death and extinction before Adam and Eve sinned, which was AFTER THE COMPLETION OF CREATION.
Now, I realize that in the modern overwhelming mindset of millions of years and such that this is a hard truth to swallow. I’m sure your mind is racing with all of the arguments you’ve heard against this even from supposed bible-believing Christians. Perhaps you’re thinking this is not definitive enough for you to just believe it. You need some more “proof” – like Does the Bible actually talk about dinosaurs specifically?
And the answer to that is yes and no.
No, in that the word “dinosaur” wasn’t invented until 1841 by Sir Richard Owen to describe these giant reptiles they were digging up. It means “terrible lizard”.
Before that, the term used to describe such a thing was… Dragon.
So, no, the bible does not mention “dinosaurs” by name, but it certainly does describe a few things that cannot be anything but what we now call dinosaurs – if you pay attention. And I’ll show you.
The book of Job. Scholars believe this to be the oldest book of the Bible in authorship, written sometime not long after the flood of Noah but before Moses wrote the Pentateuch. It’s the story of a righteous man named Job who God allowed some hardships to befall to show that he truly was righteous. While Job was suffering he did not sin, but he did say a few things that were essentially questioning God’s activities. Then in the last few chapters, God sets Job straight about who he’s dealing with in no uncertain terms.
Chapter 38 begins:
Job 38
1 Then the Lord answered Job from the whirlwind:
“Who is this that questions my wisdom
    with such ignorant words?
Brace yourself like a man,
    because I have some questions for you,
    and you must answer them.
Then God goes on to basically mock Job with questions and statements that he could not answer. Throughout much of the monologue, God is describing natural phenomena that He had created without Job’s help.
God talks about the weather, and the cycles of seasons, and stars. One of my favorite verses:
12 “Have you ever given orders to the morning,
    or shown the dawn its place,
And
34 “Can you shout to the clouds and make it rain?
35 Can you make lightning appear and cause it to strike as you direct?
Got talks about some of the creatures He made that Job cannot control or understand:
  • Lion
  • Raven
  • Wild Goats
  • Wild Donkey
  • Ostrich
  • Horse
  • Hawk
  • Eagle
Now, today, we know quite a bit about these animals, but then God starts talking about something a little bigger…
Job 40
15 “Take a look at Behemoth,
    which I made, just as I made you.
    It eats grass like an ox.
16 See its powerful loins
    and the muscles of its belly.
17 Its tail is as strong as a cedar.
    The sinews of its thighs are knit tightly together.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze.
    Its limbs are bars of iron.
19 It is a prime example of God’s handiwork, (first or chief of creation)
    and only its Creator can threaten it.
20 The mountains offer it their best food,
    where all the wild animals play.
21 It lies under the lotus plants,
    hidden by the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotus plants give it shade
    among the willows beside the stream.
23 It is not disturbed by the raging river,
    not concerned when the swelling Jordan rushes around it.
24 No one can catch it off guard
    or put a ring in its nose and lead it away.
Now, most commentaries and many Bible footnotes will say that this is describing an elephant or a hippopotamus. But I and others would offer a different suggestion.  Let’s read this again while looking at an elephant and a hippopotamus and see if you can see the resemblance.
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15 “Take a look at Behemoth,
    which I made, just as I made you.
    It eats grass like an ox.
16 See its powerful loins
    and the muscles of its belly.
17 Its tail is as strong as a cedar.
Tail like a cedar??…twig maybe (which is what many argue but does that really sound like what God is suggesting)?
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The sinews of its thighs are knit tightly together.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze.
    Its limbs are bars of iron.
19 It is a prime example of God’s handiwork,
   and only its Creator can threaten it.
Largest of creation and only the Creator can threaten it? 
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I’m not convinced.  But what about this…
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Now that’s a tail like a cedar tree! Now that’s something man cannot threaten! And while some try to argue that it couldn’t rest under the lotus tree because it’s only 30 feet tall…ever hear of laying down? Or what about hanging out in the water for a bit?
You can draw your own conclusions – but try doing so without looking through the veil of millions of years and consider the possibility that God speaks the truth in His word.
After this, God talks about another even scarier sounding beast: The Leviathan. Again commentaries and others try to say this is a crocodile. Let’s see if you agree.
Job 41
1 “Can you catch Leviathan with a hook
    or put a noose around its jaw?
2 Can you tie it with a rope through the nose
    or pierce its jaw with a spike?
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3 Will it beg you for mercy
    or implore you for pity?
4 Will it agree to work for you,
    to be your slave for life?
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5 Can you make it a pet like a bird,
    or give it to your little girls to play with?
6 Will merchants try to buy it
    to sell it in their shops?
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7 Will its hide be hurt by spears
    or its head by a harpoon?
8 If you lay a hand on it,
    you will certainly remember the battle that follows.
    You won’t try that again!
9 No, it is useless to try to capture it.
    The hunter who attempts it will be knocked down.
10 And since no one dares to disturb it,
    who then can stand up to me?
11 Who has given me anything that I need to pay back?
    Everything under heaven is mine.
12 “I want to emphasize Leviathan’s limbs
    and its enormous strength and graceful form.
13 Who can strip off its hide,
    and who can penetrate its double layer of armor?
14 Who could pry open its jaws?
    For its teeth are terrible!
15 The scales on its back are like rows of shields
    tightly sealed together.
16 They are so close together
    that no air can get between them.
17 Each scale sticks tight to the next.
    They interlock and cannot be penetrated.
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18 “When it sneezes, it flashes light!
    Its eyes are like the red of dawn.
19 Lightning leaps from its mouth;
    flames of fire flash out.
20 Smoke streams from its nostrils
    like steam from a pot heated over burning rushes.
21 Its breath would kindle coals,
    for flames shoot from its mouth.
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22 “The tremendous strength in Leviathan’s neck
    strikes terror wherever it goes.
23 Its flesh is hard and firm
    and cannot be penetrated.
24 Its heart is hard as rock,
    hard as a millstone.
25 When it rises, the mighty are afraid,
    gripped by terror.
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26 No sword can stop it,
    no spear, dart, or javelin.
27 Iron is nothing but straw to that creature,
    and bronze is like rotten wood.
28 Arrows cannot make it flee.
    Stones shot from a sling are like bits of grass.
29 Clubs are like a blade of grass,
    and it laughs at the swish of javelins.
30 Its belly is covered with scales as sharp as glass.
    It plows up the ground as it drags through the mud.
31 “Leviathan makes the water boil with its commotion.
    It stirs the depths like a pot of ointment.
32 The water glistens in its wake,
    making the sea look white.
33 Nothing on earth is its equal,
    no other creature so fearless.
34 Of all the creatures, it is the proudest.
    It is the king of beasts.”
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Yea, sounds just like a crocodile doesn’t it? 
But wait a minute, did you just say something about breathing fire?…now I know this is a myth…animals can’t do that!  Tell that to the bombardier beetle, which is able to house chemicals in different chambers and then eject them together in what is a jet of boiling hot caustic liquid. Seen in real time it looks like smoke.  If a beetle can do this, then there is no reason why another much larger animal couldn’t do this if God made it that way. And the skeletons for some of these dinosaurs believed to possibly be the Leviathan have been found to have possible chambers in the snout that could serve such a purpose. Crocodiles certainly don’t.
So, either God is talking fiction – which what good would it be for God to compare himself to imaginary animals when making a point to Job? –  OR He is talking about something that Job knew all too well, but that we no longer see today. You decide.
There are a few other possible references to dinosaurs in Scripture that are not as clear, so I won’t cover those today, but what about evidence outside of the Bible? Well, there is plenty if you are willing to look at it.
First, let’s talk about evidence from human history.
It is undisputed that ancient cultures from all over the world have dragon stories, but most of these are written off as myths. But what is interesting is that ALL of these “myths” from these disconnected cultures seem to tell the same story of giant lizards that sometimes eat people and some can even fly and/or breath fire. A quick common sense check should quickly tell you that if a bunch of independent witnesses tell of the same thing – then that thing probably really happened. Now, of course, some stories get embellished, but even secular historians believe that most “legends” begin with something that really happened.  And in the case of dragons, there are legends all over the world from long before the time when dinosaur bones were being dug up in the 1800’s.
In fact, the issue of multiple legends about dragons from all over the world even garnered a response from Carl Sagan, one of the world’s most renowned atheist/evolutionists. He wrote a book called The Dragons of Eden where he claimed that all these dragon stories came from inherited memories from our dinosaur ancestors…. While his explanation has been proven patently false, the fact that he felt the need to address the issue shows that it is indeed an problem for the evolutionary-millions-of-years mindset.
And aside from legends, there are also reports of such creatures within the writings of renowned ancient historians:
 
  • Josephus – the historian of the Jews in the first century tells a story about Moses leading an army as they fought off flying serpents.
  • Pliny the Elder an early Roman historian wrote a work titled Natural History in which among other things he records:
    • “It is in India that produces the largest elephant as well as the dragon, who is perpetually at war with the elephant, and is itself of so enormous a size as to envelope the elephants with its folds, and encircle them in its coils. The contest is equally fatal to both…”
  • Herodotus, a Greek historian in the 5th century, recounts visiting the city of Buto in Arabia where he encountered innumerable flying reptiles: “The form of the serpent is like that of the water-snake; but he has wings without feathers, and is like as possible to the wings of a bat.”
  • The great explorer, Marco Polo from the 13th century writes of “huge serpents, ten paces in length, and ten spans in the girt of the body. At the fore-part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a fourpenny loaf and very glaring. The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal, can approach them without terror.”
  • There are many, many more of these stories from all over the world and throughout human history up until the very recent time. I don’t have time to cover them all today, but I will leave links to where you can do your own research in my notes.
One thing that is fascinating about all these dragon stories is that everyone assumes them to be myth.
Well known historians, not in the habit of writing fiction, include descriptions of flying serpents and giant reptiles in their histories right alongside accepted historical narratives and the dragon parts are assumed to be inserted to lighten the mood or something.
When these people wrote of these things, it was part of their honest report. Not to mention they are offering very detailed descriptions of animals that were supposedly not even imagined or heard of until the 1800’s.

But aside from stories of dragons, we also have artwork from ancient times that show pretty clear drawings of dragons right along with other known animals as if they belong in that group.
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One example is the famous Chinese Zodiac that began as early as 2600BC. Notice that all of the animals are real animals…except the dragon. Seems odd to come up with an imaginary animal when there were still plenty of real ones to choose from. Not to mention that China Has a very rich history of dragon legends. Is it really that hard to believe that they weren’t legends at all?
How about something more recent. In 1496, Richard Bell, the Bishop of Carlisle in England passed away and a very ornate tomb was made for him that can still be seen today. Around the edge of the tomb was a brass stripe with depictions of several kinds of animals on it,
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including this 
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Now remember that this is 300 years before people were supposed to even know about dinosaurs, so how could these rather perfect depictions of known dinosaurs appear here? Great imagination? And, not only that – but at this time in church history they didn’t know about extinction. They believed that because God made everything good that if an animal didn’t exist now, then it never did. So a drawing like this if it wasn’t from something seen would be obviously mythical and to put such a pagan thing on a bishop’s tomb could warrant excommunication. No, the more common sense answer is that these two animals simply fit with the rest of the animals depicted as those regularly known and seen by the bishop and everyone else at that time and place.
Here are some other artifacts from ancient times.
This one is from ancient Mesopotamia – look familiar?
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And another one from the first dynasty in Egypt. Funny that those two long necked things are called dogs in some places.
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And there are many, many more as shown in this
short video clip.
People drawing and describing creatures that match dinosaurs that hadn’t been discovered yet?
Either people from all over the world and throughout history had latent memories from their dinosaur ancestors,
 
OR
 
they had amazingly the same eerily correct imagination about animals that died out millions of years ago
 
OR
 
they actually saw these animals in real life and drew and described them just like everything else. 
 
You can decide.

So, that’s evidence from both written history and artifact history.
What about the fossil record? Have human bones or human footprints ever been found with dinosaurs or in the same “layers” as dinosaurs?
Why yes!
While it’s not always easy to find documentation because the prevailing theory refuses to believe in these things, there are actually human footprints with dinosaur footprints and human bones with dinosaur bones all over the world. And while I can’t show you all of them today, I do want to show you a video of a man who has devoted much of his life to proving man and dinosaurs lived together. His name is Dr. Don Patton and if you google his name you will find all kinds of hate directed at him. Everything from calling all his findings frauds to attempting to discredit him in every way…all from the evolutionists camp. Which if you ask me indicates that he’s actually onto some damaging truth that they don’t like it. This is a clip from a much longer talk that I will have a link to in my notes.
Wait a minute, did we see that right?
Is he suggesting that a well respected scientist would intentionally destroy some solid evidence that would lead to a better understanding of our history?
 
That’s like suggesting that National Geographic would print a known fake fossil and call it a missing link.
 
That’s like suggesting that our kid’s textbooks would still teach evolution based on evidence long since proven false or fraudulent by the evolutionists themselves.
Why would someone do such a thing?
Well, Richard Dawkins – the famed atheist said it best:
“We should be very surprised, for example to find fossil humans appearing in the record before mammals are supposed to have evolved! If a single, well verified mammal skull were to turn up in 500 million year old rocks, our whole modern theory of evolution would be utterly destroyed.” (The Blind Watchmaker, 1986)
Now, the same could be said in a sense about those of us who believe in Jesus as the resurrected Son of God. I for one bank my whole life and eternity on that belief. And, like Dawkins statement about evolution, if someone could produce a well-verified corpse of a dead Jesus Christ, then our faith would be totally destroyed.
The difference, however, is that if we are wrong and there really is no God who created all of this and Jesus was only a man and is still dead – then we may lose heaven but at least there is no judgment and when we die we are just dead. That may take the spice out of life, And take all hope and meaning out of life, but ultimately no harm done.
But if the evolutionist is wrong. If the atheist is wrong and the God of the Bible truly is the God who created all of this – then the rest of that Bible must be true which means that I am not only special, but I am accountable to a very powerful being who promises to judge me and punish me for all eternity for my actions and choices – and specifically my choice to reject Him.
Now I’m not trying to scare anyone or suggest that you should be a Christian to avoid said judgment, because that is not what the Christian faith is about.
What I am suggesting is that the fear of the Bible being true drives some people to accept God and it drives others to hold onto their delusion all the tighter and strike out at anyone or anything that threatens to burst that bubble. This is why you see such hate and hostility agains creationists. We hold the light in the darkness and it’s hurting their eyes.
So what do we do with this? Well, basically you are presented with a choice.
Look at this picture of a dinosaur footprint on top of a human footprint. Rather undeniable and obvious. But is it real?
  • Those that found it say it is and have even done CT scans to prove it’s authenticity.
  • Those that don’t believe it have done all kids of OTHER analysis to prove it false.
  • Basically on both sides just about anything can be explained away.
  • So, is it real?
  • You and I can’t know for certain because we only have a picture – but so is the case with the existence of Abraham Lincoln or Julius Caesar or anything from history for that matter, even Jesus Christ!
  • So, again it comes down to faith.
For four weeks now, I’ve shown you that the literal biblical account of our beginnings –
  • 6 days of creation,
  • 6,000 years of history,
  • all animals created according to their kinds at the beginning along with humans and dinosaurs –
that this account actually fits the observable physical evidence, and that the other hypothesis falls short.
 
Hopefully I have also shown that it is not necessary to try to stretch the biblical account to fit even part of the evolutionary model. You can trust God’s word at face value even if the whole world disagrees.
  • And if that is your worldview, then this evidence makes complete sense.
  • If you have the other worldview, then this picture must be fake because what it shows is impossible.
  • And your worldview is learned. You are not born with it. Which means you can choose what it is.
So, now your choice is – are you going to believe God’s Word or Man’s Lies?
I showed you that they are indeed lies – not just mistakes, but intentionally perpetuated lies. Yes, the whole world believes those lies, but the Bible predicted that too.
And you can’t just remain neutral on this. Because this stuff matters. It matters where we come from for two reasons.
1. If you can’t believe the first few chapters of the Bible at face value – how can you trust the rest of it? Jesus obviously believed it – or do you want to do word gymnastics with his stuff too?  One thing I often like to say is that God’s ways are simple, as you get to know Him more you will find that. His ways are simple, but hard.  If you have to make it complex it’s because you’re trying to have it your way and His way at the same time, which doesn’t work.
2. You can’t avoid the implications, the end result of these two views. 
If you believe the lie, then you are also choosing to believe that you’re life has no meaning, significance, or value, all for the hope that you are not accountable. But the thing about believing a lie is that even though you believe it, it’s still not true and what you choose not to know CAN hurt you. Try not believing in gravity and see what happens.
But the truth of God’s Word is that you are specially created by a loving God who is both the Father who sacrificed his Son for you and the Son who laid down his life for you and the Spirit who draws you to Him. This means that you are indeed accountable, but because you have value in the eyes of the most valuable and you have significance in the eyes of the most significant, you also have forgiveness and salvation from the God who favors you if you will only accept the truth.
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31 Jesus said to the people who believed in him, “You are truly my disciples if you remain faithful to my teachings. 32 And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
Free to have a life of meaning – to fulfill the purpose for which you were created. But that can only happen when you trust God’s truth over Man’s lies.
Let’s Pray.